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Ron Paul’s Shaky Race Relations |
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While it is unclear whether Republican Presidential candidate Ron Paul is racist, it is obvious that his campaign is severely bungling the issue.
Take the following examples for what they are.
A 1992 edition of the Ron Paul Survival Report accuses 95% of D.C. blacks of being criminal. Read the disgusting piece in full, if you can stomach it.
Indeed, it is shocking to consider the uniformity of opinion among blacks in this country. Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5% of blacks have sensible political opinions, i.e. support the free market, individual liberty, and the end of welfare and affirmative action…. Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the “criminal justice system,” I think we can safely assume that 95% of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal.
If similar in-depth studies were conducted in other major cities, who doubts that similar results would be produced? We are constantly told that it is evil to be afraid of black men, but it is hardly irrational. Black men commit murders, rapes, robberies, muggings, and burglaries all out of proportion to their numbers.
He voted against reauthorizing the Voting Rights Act of 1965.
He has the support of David Duke and posts articles on his website.
Other questionable supporters include: Vanguard News Network, Will Williams of National Alliance, Mike Mazzone of the Creativity Movement and Marcus Epstein of the Robert A. Taft Club.
He voted for the Federal Election Integrity Act, which resembled a poll tax.
In 1995, he gave a speech at a Secession conference (hosted by racists) on the “once and future Republic of Texas”.
He accepted money from a known white-supremacist. The Paul campaign responded with this statement:
Dr. Paul stands for freedom, peace, prosperity and inalienable rights. If someone with small ideologies happens to contribute money to Ron, thinking he can influence Ron in any way, he’s wasted his money.
Given the fact that the the contribution was only $500 of the $18mil the campaign has raised this quarter, it is safe to say that they didn’t need the money. If he really does believe in inalienable and equal rights, he should return the $500 contribution.
He opposes all hate crime legislation.
On the Imus debacle:
Let’s be perfectly clear: the federal government has no business regulating speech in any way. Furthermore, government as an institution is particularly ill suited to combating bigotry in our society. Bigotry at its essence is a sin of the heart, and we can’t change people’s hearts by passing more laws and regulations.
I wonder if Dr. Paul would have opposed The Civil Rights Act.
He believes the civil war was a mistake. Alternet documents the absurdity.
He was the only member of Congress to vote against the following measures:
- Awarding a congressional Medal of Honor to Rosa Parks
- Condemning Robert Mugabe’s violence against Zimbabwean citizens
- Asking the League of Arab States to help stop the killing in Darfur
So, Ron Paul fans, please tell me this:
Is Dr. Paul a closet racist, secretly courting white supremacists for his cause, or is he horribly mismanaging his message on the issue?
Your logic is correct. You know who else needs to be called to task? Jesus. Hitler supported him, lots of white supremecists and other support him. Perhaps we need to rethink Jesus.
Come on man. You dont judge someone merely by who supports them. Even idiots can recognize good ideas and support them.
While you selectively edit from Ron Pauls comments to make your point, I hardly think they are the total of his comments on this issue. And also at issue is the factualness of his statements. For example: Black men commit murders, rapes, robberies, muggings, and burglaries all out of proportion to their numbers. (which you bolded). Is that not true? Do they not commit such crimes out of proportion to their population? Now the causes of this are wide and can be debated, but the numbers of such acts (which are the only the reported and known ones, not including unsolved or unreported) are quite higher than the national average. In fact, the highest segment of crime is black on black crime.
Another item to look at that you state is this: Given the fact that the the contribution was only $500 of the $18mil the campaign has raised this quarter, it is safe to say that they didn%u2019t need the money. If he really does believe in inalienable and equal rights, he should return the $500 contribution.
Yes, thats a great idea. Lets see, give money back to a racist organization so they can use that money to promote their hatred or put that money towards a good cause? Hmm, what is the more logical, intelligent choice? To me I think its obvious, but I am guessing you would not agree.
It’s pretty clear you didn’t read the article. The $500 check is only one piece of the puzzle.
Personally, I’m not necessarily willing to say Ron Paul is racist, as in the actively racist KKK-style racism. But I do think his policies promote racism, or at least ignore the problem of race, and I do think he doesn’t have a real problem with that. I’d be willing to say Ron Paul is a passive racist.
For the record, I’m not a big Ron Paul fan. He sort of scares the crap out of me, but in a different way altogether than Guiliani, or Fred Thompson… or freakin’ Huckabee.
In any case, I would not be surprised if he is a bit … biased. I would say a large percentage of middle class caucasians are, especially by today’s ultra-pc standards. However, I think he may be mismanaging mostly, and I also think you are taking his words and actions out of context. For instance, in the Rosa Parks instance, he stated that he does not mean to take anything away from her accomplishments, but he does think it is ridiculous that Congress is wasting time and money to give someone a hunk of metal (I’m liberally paraphrasing).
His bottom line is that he thinks government should stay out of peoples lives. This includes mandating that they respect other people. Do I agree? No. _Most_ anti-discriminatory legislation is good, and, to me, necessary.
Ron Paul is, for better or for worse, simply sticking hard to his own word.
And its pretty clear I didnt read the article because why? I disagreed? I love that tactic. Its one of my personal favorites. Say someone doesnt understand or didnt read because they dont come to your conclusions.
I know the $500 is only a piece, but it was a piece you thought to highlight so I commented on it. So because I responded to your comment, you assume it was the only piece I saw? Come on. Thats called shifting the argument when your point gets shot down. I noticed you didnt answer which was better about the $500 either.
As for his policies and racism, if he read his writings and listen to him you will see he feels the government should be involved regarding race. The government should be blind to race and not favor any group over any other. Its says it does this but yet every government form asks you your race.
And he is right, government will not solve racism. The only responsibility it has is to set a framework where all people have an equal shot. Other than that, theres not much it can do. Racism is personal thing, much like religion, and its not something government can really do much about. If you want to look at who ignores the problem of race, you dont have to look much further than the main race baiters, people like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. People who are all too quick to point at the ‘white man’ for all their problems and completely unwilling to turn that finger around and address the problems that they personally cause and the problems within the black culture.
Most people in this country are afraid to really deal with race issues. Whites are mostly afraid to say anything but the biggest culprits overall are black people themselves. Until they, as a whole, begin to solve their own internal problems of their culture instead of blaming things on everyone else, nothing will change. Look at Bill Cosby. He has been addressing this issue for several years and the people who want to shout him down rather than discuss the issues are mostly black.
Right, I understand his view. As I said, I don’t think that makes him an active racist, but it does make him a passive one. If you ignore the role race plays in a person’s life, or if you refuse to involve the government in crafting a solution to those problems, you are in fact racist. Perhaps not the violent KKK type, but it is still racism. Intent is important, and as I said, I don’t think Paul harbors ill-will towards minorities necessarily, but his policy positions do.
Correction: you will see he feels the government should NOT be involved regarding race
Ron Paul vs. The Philosophically Bankrupt
After reading the name-calling and other non sequiturs from the anti-Ron Paul crowd, I am of the view that their hostility arises less from his opposition to war, or the direction American foreign policy has taken for decades, or any of the other specific programs he has criticized. What troubles them the most is that Paul has a philosophically-principled integrity in what he advocates and that, to challenge him, one must be prepared to deal with him at that higher level.
But modern political discourse long ago gave up on principles, in favor of the pursuit of power as a sufficient end. There is an intellectual bankruptcy exhibited by writers and speakers on the political “left,” “right,” or “middle.” Competing ideas and values that once engaged the minds of thoughtful men and women have given way to little more than pronouncements on behalf of narrowly-defined political programs; the validity of a proposition no longer depends upon reasoned analysis, but upon the outcome of public opinion polls.
Ron Paul’s campaign interjects an energized, principled inquiry into the political realm, an undertaking for which men and women with no philosophic center or rigorous minds find themselves woefully ill-prepared.
Looks like you’re running the plays directly from the “The Official Media Guide to Attacking Ron Paul”
http://www.libertymaven.com/2007/12/19/the-official-media-guide-to-att acking-ron-paul/
Neocon Neil Tries To Smear Ron Paul - But Cavuto, apostle of war and monetary destruction, doesn’t get away with it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcLSLGXypMY
Do a search for Ron Paul on our site. We’re not afraid to confront him and you on a philosophical level. In brief, I am antiwar and pro-Constitution, but I don’t support Paul because I don’t believe that the idea of states rights is a viable or practical philosophy for solving our problems. “Non-interventionism” (because you would start screaming at me if I called it isolationism) also does not represent a nuanced reading of what America’s role in the world should be. For example, I believe that America should participate in a multinational military coalition to end the genocide in Darfur. It is over issues like these that Ron Paul and I part ways.
The race baiting is just to keep voters bickering amongst themselves and blind them from the real issues at stake like our fiat currency.
“If you ignore the role race plays in a person%u2019s life, or if you refuse to involve the government in crafting a solution to those problems, you are in fact racist.”
You do realize you made this statement? If thats what you truly believe then I submit you have no idea what racism is.
Understand that your race and the part it has played in your life, is no excuse for any action, or lack there of, that you take in your life. It does not justify murder, theft, or anything else. In all things except for discrimination (involving the level playing field framework), the government is supposed to ignore race.
I would subscribe to this view if the playing field were in fact level. But just handing someone a “level playing field” when the playing field has been historically stacked against them isn’t in fact level. Though many would like to believe otherwise, we are born with the burdens of our family, our society, and our race on our backs. Just to hand someone an even field in the present doesn’t actually make things even. You are still disadvantaged due to the burden of history. I’m honestly surprised you don’t think this is true.
“You are still disadvantaged due to the burden of history. I%u2019m honestly surprised you don%u2019t think this is true.”
I dont know why you would be surprised considering I never said anything to the contrary. You are making it up that I dont think its true. However, you are never going to achieve that. Everyone cannot have the same and equal background unless you want to go to a socialistic society where everything is government controlled and mandated the same. But even then youll still have the elites in power with more. Life is unherently unfair and we reward people for merit. Those 2 things alone guarantee inequities. And even if you can defy reality and have everything the same it wont happen overnight.
I never said it wasnt true but you are never going to achieve that. Everyone cant have the same and equal background. That is life, it is unherent unfair.
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The fact that someone would not want the government involved in solving race relations has absolutely nothing to do with being a racist. Im sorry but thats just a dumb statement. Government does not have a particularly great track record in dealing with social issues and its really not the governments place. Not all of us want a nanny state as you would seem to want. Many of us believe people need to solve their own problems.
Does anyone actually believe these lies?
For example, you say that Ron Paul posts articles on David Duke’s website. This is a COMPLETE LIE. Google the title of the article “Amnesty and the Welfare State” and you will plainly see the first his is on LewRockwell.com. THEY copied his article on to THEIR website. Ron Paul supports EQUAL RIGHTS FOR EVERY INDIVIDUAL, and you slander his good name to suggest otherwise.
i dont think ron paul go do squat..just like a crack head accoasting your car at a stop sign or car jacking you at the next corner..his crack is better the the guy down the street..buy my rock or die….yea we did that in 2000 and look what it got us..but im a big fan of fools gold..how dumb down do you wanna git..”huckabee”..then you should be living out side the gov. mansion in ark. in a double wide while there remodeling the place and gitting re-marryed to your wife so you can git new stuff from the state of ark./targit/walmart/etc. to refurbuch your new mansion..and to boot a scandel of letting a rapeist off the hook thru a totallee illegal move with the ark. prolboard..this is the white trash scum the media is falling over…wow! hope you git the worst of them in 08..8 years of reagun and daddy bush/4 years of daddy..8 years of hillery/8 years of g.w.//what more do you want of stuipidy..you want my advice of who to vote for next nov.//o.k….tye a rope around your neck and attach a cinder block to it..then jump in a lake and hold your breath..then the rusults will come to you..