Red Wind

Evaluating McCain’s Vietnam “Experience”

by Red Wind  ::  Filed Under Elections 2008  ::  May 22nd, 2008 @ 11:45 am EST

Jason’s comment on my Wednesday post got me thinking a little more about McCain’s biography—most specifically the Vietnam War part—and what role it should play in the 2008 battle for the White House. . . and what was going to be a one-sentence response grew into something more like a post of its own.

First, the comment:

McCain will absolutely say anything to be elected, but I did find interest in Bai’s piece. Not so much for the psychoanalyzing as for the Vietnam question.

For whatever reason, McCain believe[s] we could have and should have won Vietnam by committing more troops. That’s a very interesting question to start debating right now, with the parallels with Iraq so obvious. Yet, I feel, lots of portions of America don’t really want to ask that question. It brings up an era many would like to forget. Very interesting indeed.

Indeed. Therefore, my response:

That McCain thinks we could have “won” the Vietnam War is not only ignorant, it’s dangerous.

Many questions were asked about Vietnam throughout the ’70’s and ’80’s. There are lots of good books (Karnow, Halberstam, and Shawcross come to mind), with lots of good insights, and they all tell us that we didn’t just fight incorrectly, we fought for the wrong reasons.

Was there a way to “win” in Vietnam? I suppose we could have talked with Ho when he first turned to the US—and he did turn FIRST to the US—for help fighting a repressive colonial occupier. Short of that, there is no right answer.

I feel the right is forcing us to re-debate Vietnam history as a rehearsal for the eventual rewrite of Bush’s Iraqi incursion. Imagine, even now, asking the “how could we have won Iraq” question.

The only answer is by not invading in the first place. That McCain still does not understand this makes for a bad omen when considering how or whether he would end the Iraq fiasco, and is a scary indication of just how terrible McCain might be at handling other foreign challenges.

I think the most interesting tidbit in the Bai piece—and I touched upon this the other day—was the revelation, of sorts, that “Mr. Experience” actually decided how to handle a crisis from what he read in a few books, and not from some special lesson learned at the Hanoi Hilton.

I am not against psychobiography—I have read some good ones—but I would want to look at the total of McCain’s life experiences. Having been in a POW camp or in the jungle doesn’t by itself predict how a veteran/lawmaker sees Iraq (take Bob Kerrey, for instance, an Iraq hawk that witnessed the worst of the Vietnam war firsthand during two tours as a Navy SEAL).

When I look at McCain’s life, I see the son and grandson of very successful men who goes into the family business and quickly finds he’s just not as smart and not as good at it. He then spends the rest of his life trying to one-up Daddy to prove his worth.

Sound familiar?

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(Cross-posted on capitoilette)

DISCUSSION

3 RESPONSES to “Evaluating McCain’s Vietnam “Experience””

Red Wind says  ::  May 23rd, 2008 @ 8:30 am EST

In flipping through some of those fine, older works on Vietnam, I came across this in the forward to David Halberstam%u2019s The Best and the Brightest:

For anyone who aspires to a position of national leadership, no matter the circumstances of his or her birth, this book should be mandatory reading. And anyone who feels a need, as a confused former prisoner of war once felt the need, for insights into how a great and good nation can lose a war and see its worthy purposes and principles destroyed by self-delusion can do no better than to read and reread David Halberstam%u2019s The Best and the Brightest.

Who wrote that forward? As you might have guessed from the personal reference, it was Senator John McCain.

Very interesting, indeed.

Dennis says  ::  May 23rd, 2008 @ 11:20 am EST

McCain touts his experience over Obama. To be quite frank, I don’t want our representatives to be experienced career politicians. Amd I certainly don’t want a president with the kind of “experience” McCain has. McCain doesn’t get that Obama is getting the vote, BECAUSE of his lack of Washington experience.

Jason Rosenbaum says  ::  May 23rd, 2008 @ 3:38 pm EST

I’m not so sure re-engaging the Vietnam fight helps the right. I almost see that debate as having died without a clear winner or loser, so it’s an open question as to what opening up those wounds will do. Still, hey, if we want to have that fight I’m all for it. Hindsight is 20-20 and I think the anti-war side wins.


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